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    Re: "Faith healing" 274 children later...

    I'm not lumping you with them, you're not crazy. I just don't think religion has a useful purpose..."A necessary evil that has become more evil than necessary". There woudn't be a shortage of good people if there wasn't any, it doesn't make someone better/good, a person is either a good person or a not so good person.


    I just watched the Jack Van Impe show on TBN, I try to every wed. night when it comes on. He is completely full of **** and it's the same old rhetoric every week. Though it's pretty outdated, still focusing on communism. He twist scripture so that the Bible speaks on communism, Marxism, countries that didn't exist at the time or just whatever he wants to scare people with. Constantly talking about the "New World Order", Russia, Communism and inciting Obama as the Anti-Christ. Just gets old, it's hard to believe someone could "preach" half the stuff he does. If there's a hell, he, Pat Robertson, Rod Parsley and Jerry Falwell will split it wide open. Reminds me, I haven't heard a prediction from Robertson in awhile. I'd really like to know when the worlds going to end again, since it hasn't the past 5 times.

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    Re: "Faith healing" 274 children later...

    Religion means something different to everyone. Some have not had such a good experience with it due to people like those in your posts or people trying to force feed you their kind of religion. That's not something I like either but to have no religion in the world isn't something that I would be fond of.


    OH and thanks for saying I'm not crazy. If you met my whole family you would wonder.

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    Re: "Faith healing" 274 children later...

    I'm going to say something I've said on here a billion times, and hopefully people will take it to heart:

    Unwavering faith is a wonderful thing. Personal beliefs are a wonderful thing. Organized man-made religion messes all of that up and gets in the way of your ability to worship God freely. A relationship with God should be the goal, not a devotion to the church of your choice.
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    Re: "Faith healing" 274 children later...

    A US jury has found a man guilty of killing his sick 11-year-old daughter by praying for her recovery rather than seeking medical care.

    The man, Dale Neumann, told a court in the state of Wisconsin he believed God could heal his daughter.

    She died of a treatable disease - undiagnosed diabetes - at home in rural Wisconsin in March last year, as people surrounded her and prayed.

    Neumann's wife, Leilani Neumann, was convicted earlier this year.

    The couple, who were both convicted of second-degree reckless homicide, face up to 25 years in prison when they are sentenced in October.

    A lawyer representing Dale Neumann said he would appeal.

    'Faith healing'

    During the trial, medical experts told the court that Neumann's daughter could have survived if she had received treatment, including insulin and fluids, before she stopped breathing.

    On Thursday Neumann, who is 47 and studied in the past to be a Pentecostal minister, said he thought God would heal his daughter.

    "If I go to the doctor, I am putting the doctor before God," he said. "I am not believing what he said he would do."

    He also said he thought his daughter had had flu or a fever, and that he had not realised how ill she was.

    Neumann's lawyer said he had been convinced that his "faith healing" was working, and that he had committed no crime.

    The prosecution argued that Neumann had minimised his daughter's illness and that he had allowed her to die as a selfish act of faith.

    They said the girl should have been taken to hospital because she was unable to walk, talk, eat or drink.

    Instead, an ambulance was only called once the girl had stopped breathing.

    BBC NEWS | Americas | Praying man let his daughter die

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